007之声（2022）

约翰·巴里对铜管乐器的痴迷
about John Barry’s obsession with brass.
当你听约翰·巴里演奏的时候，我很喜欢他的音乐
When you hear John Barry play, something that I just adore in music
是音乐忧郁，反思的一面。
is the melancholic, reflective side of music.
巴里，你可以在他的乐谱中听到这一点。
And Barry, you can hear that right throughout his scores.
你知道,债券……
You know, Bond…
对我来说，没有那种感觉就没有邦德。
You can’t have a Bond, for me, without that feeling.
约翰·巴里创造了詹姆斯·邦德的声音。
John Barry created the sound of James Bond.
吉尔?
Jill?
在接下来的25年里，
And over the next 25 years,
他是詹姆斯·邦德音乐的王者。
he was the reigning king of James Bond music.
他做了其中的11个。
He did 11 of them.
我认为，当其他作曲家承担起这项工作时，
And I think, where other composers have taken on that job,
最成功的故事总是
the biggest success stories have always been
对邦德音乐有所了解的人
people who have had an awareness about Bond music
以及约翰·巴里的作品有多棒。
and about how wonderful John Barry’s stuff is.
我年轻的时候，曾在一家慈善商店工作。
When I was younger, I used to work in this charity shop.
我自愿去那里是因为他们有很多黑胶唱片。
I volunteered there because they had loads of vinyl.
我第一次找到一张约翰·巴里的黑胶唱片，其实是《来自俄♥罗♥斯♥的爱》。
And so, I first found a John Barry vinyl, and it was actually From Russia With Love.
当我刚开始写作时，我总是引用约翰·巴里。
When I first started writing, I would always reference John Barry.
他发明了这种风格。
He invented this style.
他对自己的音乐表现得非常优雅。
He couldn’t help but be incredibly elegant about his music.
我们从约翰给我们的东西开始，
We start off very much with what John had given us,
然后慢慢发展出我们自己的风格，
and then slowly branch off into our own style,
但总有约翰·巴里。
but there’s always John Barry.
就音乐而言，他是宇宙的中心。
He is the center of this universe as far as music is concerned.
这首歌♥的选角很复杂，
With the song, the casting is complex,
在某种意义上说，很多人对谁适合这个职位都有自己的想法。
in the sense that many people have ideas about who would be suitable.
我认为这是一个非常有趣的歌♥曲比赛。
I think it’s become a really interesting song contest.
对我来说，我喜欢戏剧性的、前卫的流行音乐。
For me, I like dramatic, edgy pop.
每次新的邦德电影上映，我们都会得到这样的回应。
And that’s what we get every time a new Bond film comes out.
在过去的20年里，他们做了一些非常有趣的选择。
They’ve made some really interesting choices over the last 20 years.
为了唱邦德的歌♥而战
The fight to do a Bond song is
如果你是一名音乐家，那么争夺邦德角色的斗争就会那么激烈。
as big as the fight to be cast as Bond, if you’re a musician.
唱邦德的歌♥就像演《哈姆雷特》。
To do a Bond song is like doing Hamlet.
这是一项最高成就。
It’s a top achievement.
当我看着歌♥手的时候，我感觉我在选角。
I felt like I’m casting, when looking at singers.
你要在知情的情况下选择你要唱的人。
You make an informed choice about who it is you’ll get to sing it.
你同意芭芭拉，迈克尔和导演，
You agree that with Barbara, Michael, and the director,
然后他们就让你去做了。
and then they let you go away and do it.
在《天幕杀机》中，我们都想成为英国艺术家。
With Skyfall we all wanted to being British artist.
这是一种协同作用。
Was a synergy about it.
50周年纪念，2012年
The 50th Anniversary, 2012,
英国自我感觉良好，
UK feeling great about itself, for a change,
奥♥运♥会,
the Olympics,
这一切都融入了电影中，那种自豪感。
and it all went into the movie, that sense of pride.
阿黛勒在其中扮演了重要角色。
Adele was very much part of that.
我认为阿黛尔是最适合的歌♥手，因为
I think Adele’s the perfect singer for it ’cause
她完成了音乐史研究。
she’s done her music history.
她是听着贝西歌♥曲长大的。
She grew up with Bassey songs.
她结束台词的方式，太真实了。
The way she finishes the lines, so authentic.
她是那些人的继承人
She’s the heir to those people,
但她也很有时代感，她有自己的风格。
and yet she’s also very contemporary, she has her own thing.
我们的必须是经典的。短暂的是……
Ours had to be classic. The brief was…
“50周年,宝贝。”
“50th Anniversary, baby.”
这一定是经典，你知道吗?
It’s got to be a classic, you know?
和保罗在一起，就有点…
With Paul, it just kind of…
通常情况下，我带着一个想法进去，你也准备好了一个想法。
Normally, I go in with an idea, and you have an idea ready.
我们把它们扔到一起，然后发生了什么，
We throw them at each other, and something happens,
《大破天幕杀机》就是这样。
it happened with Skyfall.
我把剧本给了她。“我喜欢它!我泡在浴缸里看的。
I gave her the script. “I loved it! I went in the bath to read it.
“等我出来的时候，我的浴盆已经凉了。”
“By the time I got out, my bath was cold.”
然后她安静了下来。
And then she went quiet.
拍摄到一半，她把歌♥发给了我们。
Halfway through the shoot, she sent us the song.
“太棒了。”
It was like, “That’s fantastic.”
我觉得我们一个字一个音符都没改。
I don’t think we changed a word or a note.
当你接近一位艺术家时，
When you approach an artist,
那是因为你喜欢那个艺术家的作品。
it’s because you love what that artist does.
当波诺和锋刃说他们想做的时候，我们都惊呆了。
We were blown away when Bono and the Edge said that they wanted to do it.
当我们听到他们的想法时，我们很喜欢。
When we heard what they came up with, we loved it.
他们告诉我们他们不想表演。
They told us they didn’t wanna perform it.
他们认为应该是一位女歌♥手。
They thought it should be a female vocalist.
还有谁比蒂娜·特纳更好呢?
And who better than Tina Turner?
我坐在苏黎世的家里，波诺给我发了一张最差的小样。
I was sitting at my home in Zurich, and Bono sent me the worst demo.
他说得好像他觉得我不会这么做似的。
He kind of threw it together as if he thought I wasn’t gonna do it.
我想他声音沙哑了。
I think he was hoarse.
.．.穿过烟雾和镜子…
…move through Smoke and mirrors…
我觉得他不是真的想让我唱。
I don’t think he really meant for me to sing it.
.．.在人群中
…in the crowd
其他女孩他们聚集在他周围
Other girls They gather around him
他说:“我不能让别人写这首歌♥。
He said, “I cannot let anyone else write the song.
“我和我妻子是在伊恩·弗莱明的黄金眼别♥墅♥度蜜月的。”
“Me and my wife spent our honeymoon at Ian Fleming’s place, GoldenEye.”
不是蕾丝或皮革
Golden eye Not lace or leather
带他去那个地方
With the Golden eye Take him to the spot
他说，“有点粗糙。”
He said, “It’s a little bit rough.”
我想，“我该怎么把它组合起来?”
And I thought, “How do I put this together?”
它并没有告诉我旋律是什么。
It wasn’t showing me what the melody was.
他说:“亲爱的蒂娜，这太残酷了。
He said, “Dear Tina, this is rough.
“你可能不会得到它。在演播室里，我们会一起拍。”
“You probably won’t get it. In the studio, we’ll get it together.”
果然，这一切都是在录音棚里完成的。
And, true enough, it came together in the studio.
.．.被拒绝
…Be denied
这是一个黄金和美人计
It’s a gold and honey trap
我怎么唱就怎么唱。
I sung it how I would sing it.
甚至波诺也被打动了。
And even Bono was impressed.
他说:“我早该知道的。我记得发给你了
He said, “I should have known. I remember sending you that,
“寄出之后，我意识到它真的很糟糕。”
“and after I sent it, I realized that it was really bad.”
.．.我看到你了
…Got you in my sight
四处寻找能唱这首歌♥的人
Looking around for people who could sing the song
《这个世界是不够的》
in The World Is Not Enough.
看看雪莉，她的态度和精力，
Looking at Shirley, and her attitude and energy,
就好像她能演这部电影一样。也许她应该在里面。
it was like she could be in this film. Maybe she should’ve been in it.
我想我是偏执狂
I think I’m paranoid
他们叫我……
They call me…
她是如此强大和坚定，
She was so potent and unflinching,
感觉她有能力把这句歌♥词变成一件正经事。
it felt like she had the strength to make that lyric a proper event.
我们在伦敦。大卫问他是否可以见面喝杯咖啡。
We were in London. David asked if he could meet for coffee.
我走进了酒店对面的星巴克，
I went into a Starbucks across the road from our hotel,
他说:“你想要什么?”
and he said, “What do you want?”
我说”我要一杯脱脂拿铁”
And I said, “I’ll have a skinny latte.”
他把它拿到桌上，扑通一声放下，坐在我面前。
He brought it to the table, plopped it down, and sat in front of me.
他说:“你想知道我为什么带你来这里吗?”
He said, “Do you want to know why I’ve brought you here?”
我说:“是的，我喜欢。”
And I went, “Yeah, I do.”
他说:“你想唱下一个邦德主题曲吗?”
He went, “Do you want to sing the next Bond theme?”
她用一种我从未听过的尖叫。
She screamed in a way that I’d never heard anyone scream before.
我想她一生都想做这样一件事。
I think she wanted to do one of those all her life as well.
我的意思是，我不认为我真的尖叫…
I mean, I don’t think I literally screamed like…
但我吓坏了。
But I was freaking out.
对任何歌♥手来说，被要求这么做都是件大事。
For any vocalist to be asked to do that is a huge deal.
我不能很好地接受，但当然，我答应了。
I couldn’t really take it in very well, but of course, I said yes.
我有足够的资金说:“是的。我愿意这么做。谢谢你。”
I had the wherewithal to say, “Yes. I would like to do that. Thank you.”
《没有时间去死》似乎是对的
With No Time To Die, it seemed right
我们有一首从女性角度出发的歌♥。
that we have a song which was from the female point of view.
我去看了比莉和芬尼亚斯的表演。
And I went to see Billie and Finneas when they were performing.
她会同情我认识的所有男人
She’ll pity all the men I know
-所以你是…人群:硬汉
– So you’re a… -CROWD: Tough guy
很粗暴的家伙
Like it really rough guy
就是找不到足够的男人
Just can’t get enough guy
——胸部总是……-…所以膨化家伙
– Chest always… – …So puffed guy
她来看过我们的一场演出，
She came to one of our shows,
太完美了，因为这是最棒的。
which was perfect ’cause it was the best one.
我很高兴她看到了精彩的表演。
I was excited she saw a good show.