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Turns out he’s been settling
大主教区的性侵案有些年头了
abuse cases with the Archdiocese for years.
你真想在这儿讨论这个吗
You really want to talk about this here?
吉姆 你说过你帮过巴雷特神父
Jim, you said you helped out on father Barrett as a favor.
就那一次吗
That was a one-off?
这样的案子你参与过多少起
How many of these cases you been involved with?
你知道我没法回答这问题 罗比
You know I can’t answer that, Robby.
有违职业道德的
It’s unethical.
就这么打发我吗
Is that all it is?
这可能就是那个我常听别人说起
So, this would be the Robby Robinson
却从没见过的罗比·罗宾森吧
I’ve always heard about but never met.
听我说 吉米
Listen to me, Jimmy.
你选边站可得选对了
You want to be on the right side of this.
你说的这可是教会 罗比
This is the church you’re talking about, Robby.
看看周围 这些都是好人
Look around. These are good people.
对这个城市做了很多贡献
Done a lot of good for this city.
享受晚会吧
Enjoy the party.
这些记录我已经看了很多
I’ve been through a lot of these now.
他们让这些神父停职时
“Sick leave” isn’t the only designation they use
“因病离职”不是唯一的理由
when they take one of these Priests out of circulation.
有很多说法 比如”休假缺席”
They use a slew of terms: “Absent on leave,”
“未分派” “应急出勤”
“Unassigned,” “Emergency response.”
这些人能找到各种理由
They got a word for everything, these guys.
就是不会写强♥奸♥
Except rape.
他们换教区要比其他神父
And they move parishes way more frequently
频繁得多
than other Priests.
我小时候 一个神父会在一个教区
When I was a kid, a Priest moved
待上七八年 有时更久
after seven or eight years, sometimes longer.
这些人最多两到三年
These guys, it’s two to three years tops.
给萨维阿诺列出的神父们
And did they use these designations
用的也是这些理由吗
for all of Saviano’s Priests?
是的 模式非常明显
Yeah. It’s a pretty clear pattern.
同志们 我联♥系♥上赛普了
Guys, I got Sipe.
我觉得你们要是真想理解这场危机
I think if you really want to understand the crisis,
就得从禁欲戒律开始
you need to start with the celibacy requirement.
这是我第一个重大发现
That was my first major finding.
只有一半的神父是禁欲的
Only 50% of the clergy are celibate.
这些人♥大♥多数有成年性♥伴♥侣♥
Now, most of them are having sex with other adults.
但实际上 这滋生了一种秘密文化
But the fact remains that this creates a culture of secrecy
会容忍♥甚至保护恋童癖者
that tolerates and even protects pedophiles.
所以你相信教会
So you believe the church
清楚这场危机的严重程度
is aware of the extent of this, uh, crisis?
肯定的
Oh, absolutely.
路易斯安那的第一场大丑闻发生后
After the first major scandal in Louisiana,
教廷大使秘书圣典学者汤姆·道伊尔
Tom Doyle, the secretary canonist for the Papal Nuncio,
跟人合作了一份报告 里面警告
co-authored a report warning pedophile Priests
容忍♥恋童癖的神父是个极其危险的包袱
were a billion-dollar liability.
那是1985年的事了
That was in 1985.
1985年
1985?
是的
That’s right.
谁看过报告 天主教会的高层看过吗
Who saw that report? Anyone from the catholic hierarchy?
看过 道伊尔想在全国天主教主教会议上
Sure. Doyle tried to introduce the report
宣读那份报告
at the national conference of catholic bishops.
其实劳枢机主教当年还资助过那个报告呢
In fact, Cardinal Law initially helped to fund the report.
但他后来放弃了 报告就被束之高阁了
But then he backed out and they shelved it.
-他在开玩笑吗 -理查德 我是罗比
– Is he kidding me? – Uh, Richard, Robby here.
我们觉得波士顿有13个神父符合这个模式
We think we have 13 Priests in Boston that fit this pattern,
这会是个很大 很大的新闻
which would be a very… a very big story.
这个数量你觉得合理吗
Does that sound right to you, uh, in terms of scale?
不合理 罗比 我觉得有点少
No, not really, Robby. Sounds low to me.
我的估计是
My estimates suggest six percent
百分之六的神父会性侵未成年人
act out sexually with minors.
什么的百分之六
Uh, six percent of what?
所有神父的百分之六
Six percent of all Priests.
波士顿有多少神父
How many Priests do we have in Boston?
大约1500个 百分之一是15个
About 1,500. One percent is 15.
百分之六就是 90个
Six percent is… 90.
等等 90个神父
Wait. Nine-ninety Priests?
这可能吗
Is that possible?
从比例来看 是的
From a metric standpoint, yes.
这跟我的发现很吻合
That would certainly be in line with my findings.
还在吗
Hello?
光波士顿就有90个变♥态♥神父
Ninety fucking Priests? In Boston?
他是这么说的
That’s what he said.
要是有90个这样的混♥蛋♥ 人们会知道的
If there were 90 of these bastards, people would know.
也许真知道呢
Maybe they do.
却没人说一个字
And no one said a thing?
都想当纳粹良民吧
Good Germans.
这种类比可千万不要公开讲
I don’t think that’s a comparison you want to make publicly.
麦克利什早就知道 他只是默不作声
Macleish knew. He just didn’t say anything.
他只知道13个神父
That’s 13 Priests.
13和90之间有天壤之别
There’s a big difference between 13 and 90.
这个叫赛普的家伙是从哪儿得到的数字
Where’s this guy Sipe getting his numbers?
他研究这个已经有30年了
Well, he’s been studying it for 30 years.
-他是专业心理医生 -好吧
– He is a trained psychotherapist. – Okay.
但是我们需要更多证据
But we need something
而不只是一个娶了修女的
more than a metric from some hippie ex-Priest
嬉皮士前神父的一面之词
who’s shacking up with a nun.
好吧 那我们来调查更多受害者
Okay, so we’ll track down more victims.
找出更多神父
We’ll get more Priests.
然后我们可以在目录里找他们的相关记录
Then we could check them against the directories.
-受害者人数太多了 -我们会找到的
– That’s a shitload of victims. – We’ll get there.
需要多久
How long’s it gonna take?
太久了
Too long.
等等 散会了吗
Wait. Meeting’s over?
是的 目前结束了
Yeah, for now.
-你想到什么了 -我们反着来会怎样
– What’ve you got? – What if we work backwards?
什么意思 从哪儿反
What do you mean? From what?
从目录
From the directories.
我们一直用它们确认坏神父
We’ve been using them to confirm bad Priests.
我们反过来查会怎样
What if we do it the other way around?
用目录找出坏神父
Use the directories to identify bad Priests.
没错
Yeah, exactly.
我们根据派遣记录搜索
We search by designation.
我们查找所有标记病假或未分派的神父
We look for any Priest on “Sick leave” Or “Unassigned.”
-或者经常换地方的 -没错
– Or have been moved around a lot. – Yeah.
工作量会很大啊
It’s gonna take a load of work.
要是我们大家都来做就不会了
Well, not if we’re all on it.
你也来吗
You too?
一般来说 “大家都来”也包括我
Generally that’s what “All” Means.
是啊 一般来说
Yeah, generally.
在职
退休
在职
在职
因病离职
在职
高级牧师 在职
在职
在职
退休
待分配
在职
在职
在职
因病离职
闭馆时间马上就要到了
Library is closing.
闭馆时间马上就要到了
Library is closing.
尤金·奥沙利文
西罗克斯伯里 佩尔顿街276号♥
我的天
Holy shit.
开玩笑的吧
No freakin’ way.
孩子们
请远离布雷顿街276号♥这所房♥子
离住在这里的男人远点
-塔伯特 -有
– Talbot. – Yep.
-蒂弗南 -有
– Tivnan. – Yep.
-多马 -有
– Toma. – Yep.
-特恩布尔 -有
– Turnbull. – Yep.
-沃尔什 -有
– Walsh. – Yep.
-维尔什 -有