我过去很喜欢曼彻斯特 因为你什么也看不见
I used to like Manchester, cos you couldn’t see a thing.
马克·E·史密斯
堕落乐队
我的意思是 就好像…
I mean, it was like…
烟雾笼罩 你什么也看不见
With the smog and everything, you couldn’t see anything.
*Street signs you never saw*
*All entrances delivered…*
就好像纽约的黑帮电影
It was like gangster films about New York, you know. You see…
那种黑色电影 诸如此类的东西
Film noir, sort of thing, you know?
*Entrances uncovered…*
人们会从雾中突然现形 出现在你面前
People would literally come out of the fog at you.
所以这一切都很神秘
So it was all very mysterious.
*You got Manny in the library*
*Working off his hangover 3.30 get the spleen…*
他们一通过所有的污染法案
Once they got all the pollution laws passed,
再看曼彻斯特 可以说是”恐怖之地”
you saw Manchester, it was like, “What a horrible place!”
曼彻斯特见证了一批尖锐乐队的鼎盛时期
Manchester saw a flowering of truculent bands.
但未成气候
But not a scene.
曼彻斯特潜移默化地影响着你
The subconscious effect that Manchester had on you
你的个性 思想以及行为
and your personality, your thoughts, your actions,
都体现在音乐中 那是个相当恐怖的地方
it came through in the music. It was a pretty grim place.
彼得·胡克
快乐分♥裂♥乐队
也许你会感到黑暗 我不确定
And you felt – I don’t know – dark, I suppose.
看了性手♥枪♥乐队在小自♥由♥贸易厅的演出后
Joy Division had originally formed as a punk band in 1976,
快乐分♥裂♥乐队于1976年组建
after witnessing the Sex Pistols
成为一支朋克乐队
at the Lesser Free Trade Hall.
我看到约翰·烂牙时就意识到
Once I saw Johnny Rotten, I realised that the only thing
我最想做的事就是叫每个人都滚蛋
I wanted to do in the world was tell everyone to fuck off.
就在我买♥♥低音吉他的第二天
It was literally the next day I went out and bought a bass guitar,
那时伯纳德也有一把吉他
Bernard had a guitar
我们就组建了自己的朋克乐队
and we started our punk band.
随着我们的演奏能力越来越强
As our playing capabilities got better,
我们开始写更好的歌♥曲
we started writing better and better songs
这一切发生得都相当快
and that happened quite quickly.
Joy Division – Shadowplay
*To the centre of the city*
*Where our roads meet waiting for you.*
就在六个月的时间里
Literally within the space of six months,
我们从不够稳定的华沙乐队改为快乐分♥裂♥乐队
we’d turned from Warsaw, a dodgy punk band, to Joy Division.
*Booming through the silence without motion waiting for you*
*In a room with no window in the corner, I found truth.*
在三和♥弦♥金属摇滚乐时期
In a time of three-chord thrash,
快乐分♥裂♥乐队把朋克的自己动手精神
Joy Division interpreted punk’s DIY ethos
诠释为可以与主流不同
as permission to be different.
他们决定表现真实 将一种深沉的曲调
Determined only to be truthful, they combined a brooding sound
和伊恩·柯蒂斯存在主义的歌♥词结合在一起
with the existential lyrics of Ian Curtis.
快乐分♥裂♥乐队
Joy Division.
他们表达了朋克的愤怒和狂躁
They took the anger of punk, the rage of punk,
但那都是外化的东西
but that was all externalised stuff.
博比·吉莱斯皮
原始呐喊乐队
有趣的是
What was interesting about Joy Division
快乐分♥裂♥乐队的狂躁是内化的
was the rage was internalised.
*In the shadow play acting out your own*
*But knowing no more*
*As the assassins all grouped in four lines*
*Dancing on the floor*
*And with cold steel odour on their bodies.*
1978年 后朋克并非所有人都热心参与的活动
In 1978, post-punk was no communal scene of kindred spirits.
恰恰相反
Rather the opposite.
当时你能感受到人与人之间隔着一层淡漠的膜
Then you kind of had a slight frostiness with everybody.
我记得那空荡荡的街景
You know, I can remember – empty landscape,
你撞上了其他乐队成员
bump into somebody from another band,
“你还好吗” “我挺好 你呢”
“Are you all right?” “Yeah. Are you all right?”
“还行” 仅此而已
“Yeah.” That was it.
乐队之间竞争激烈 总是对抗强烈
Bands are very competitive, and there’s always a great rivalry,
我们和堕落乐队总会相互较劲
and there was always a great rivalry between us and The Fall.
我从来没有太过关注我们之间的竞争
I’ve never paid much attention to our competition
或是跟其他乐队的竞争
or anything like that, other groups.
我是堕落乐队的忠实乐迷 不管你信不信
I’m a big Fall fan, believe it or not.
和快乐分♥裂♥乐队一样
Like Joy Division,
马克·E·史密斯也看了性手♥枪♥乐队
Mark E Smith had witnessed the Sex Pistols
1976年在小自♥由♥贸易厅的表演
at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in 1976,
组建了自己的乐队 堕落乐队
and set out on his own path with The Fall.
The Fall – Totally Wired
*Totally wired totally wired*
*Totally biased…*
性手♥枪♥乐队刚出道的时候
The Pistols, when they started out,
我认为他们很”车♥库♥摇滚”
I think they were quite garage, really.
但是发了几首单曲后
But in the space of a couple of singles,
它的风格就几乎变成了重金属 不是吗
it went almost heavy metal, didn’t it?
*When the going gets weird*
*The weird turn pro*
*So I’m totally wired*
*T-t-t-totally wired*
* I’m totally wired. Can’t you see?*
*T-t-t-totally wired now.*
阿尔贝·加缪 法国小说家 哲学家
小说《堕落》 1956
他们以加缪的一部小说作为乐队名
Taking the band’s name from a novel by Camus,
人们不会把马克·E·史密斯的
there was no mistaking Mark E Smith’s
存在主义街头诗歌♥
existential street poetry
误以为是朋克的宣传
for the initial agitprop of punk.
你穿得越不像他们 就越会被别人唾弃
The more you didn’t dress like them, the more you got spat at.
*My heart and I agree…*
我们因为留长发等等而遭到攻击
We would get attacked for having long hair and all sorts.
你们因为留长发而被攻击
You got attacked for having long hair?
是的 如果他们看到你的时候
Yeah, cos, you know, if they saw you
你忘了把头发剪短
and you forgot to cut your hair,
你懂我的意思 下台时经常一身绿色
you know what I mean… Used to come off stage all green.
回到大都市伦敦
Back in metropolitan London,
每位记者在1978年都会问的问题是
the big question on every interviewer’s lips in 1978 was,
约翰接下来要做什么
what was Johnny going to do next?
性手♥枪♥乐队没有任何说明
The Pistols broke up in a really unclarified
就十分黯淡地解散了
and corrupting kind of way,
这是由于管理不善 而不是其他原因
due to mismanagement, really, more than anything.
约翰·里顿
公众形象公♥司♥乐队
这让我感到非常沮丧
and it left me completely frustrated
我想做一点事情
and I wanted to do something,
因为我想继续搞音乐
cos I wanted to continue with music,
于是我就
so I, kind of,
召集了身边的朋友 组建了公众形象公♥司♥乐队
pooled the friends I had around me, and formed PiL.
维珍唱片公♥司♥对创立新乐团不太感兴趣
The record company, Virgin, weren’t too interested in a new band.
他们十分生我的气
They were really, kind of, very angry with me
因为我竟敢向他们推荐无名小卒
for daring to suggest complete unknowns to them,
但是我必须提醒他们
but I had to remind them that, you know,
就在两年以前 我也是无名小卒
up until two years before that, I was a complete unknown.
约翰决心要做出一些激进的事情
John was up to do something radical.
我因为演奏低音吉他而出名
I was known for playing a little bit of bass,
我不知道别人怎么知道的 但我爱低音吉他
I’m not quite sure how people knew, that, but I love bass –
我就是演奏低音吉他的代名词
I was synonymous with playing bass,
贾·沃伯
公众形象公♥司♥乐队 1978-80
我一心一意地演奏低音吉他
I was at one with playing bass.
除此之外唯一的爱好是陶土飞靶射击
There’s only other thing, which was clay pigeon shooting,
我曾经玩过一次
which I took up once
从一发令到结束我都玩得非常棒
and was very, very good at from the word go,
然后我有点害怕
and got afraid
因为这可能会取代我的低音吉他演奏
because it might displace playing bass.
我爱听刺耳的音调
I love cacophony, I mean,
我爱牛心上尉做音乐的方式
I loved the Captain Beefheart approach to music.
多恩·凡·弗利特 美国歌♥手 词曲作家
就是让业余音乐者聚在屋子里
You know, fill a room full of amateurs
然后期待到底能产生什么效果
and let’s see what happens.
效果棒极了
Fantastic.
谁又能知道会不会出现更多的性手♥枪♥乐队呢
Who could have known that there would be no more Sex Pistols?
约翰马上就对我说 “来吧”
Next thing I knew, John’s saying, “Let’s do it,”
基思·利文
公众形象公♥司♥乐队 1978-83
我认识了沃伯
and I knew Wobble,
他们马上说 “我们想启用沃伯”
and they said, “We want to use Wobble,”
我说”好极了” 于是就成了
and I said, “Great,” and it was on.
于1978年10月13日发行的
Released on October 13th, 1978,
《公众形象》标志着约翰·烂牙脱掉戏服
Public Image marked the moment Johnny Rotten
显露出富有远见的约翰
stepped out of costume to reveal John, the visionary.
Public Image Limited – Public Image
*You never listened to a word that I said*
*You only see me for the clothes that I wear*
*Or did the interest go so much deeper*
*It must have been the colour of my hair*
*The public image.*
