There’s a lot of people who just don’t have that same type of drive.
在碧昂斯那样的歌♥手身上 也能看到这种动力
You see it in an artist like Beyoncé, that kind of drive.
很多时候 谈及黑人艺术家
A lot of times, when it comes to black artists
都会提到巴斯奎特 迈尔斯戴维斯
this happens with Basquiat, it happened with Miles Davis
迈克尔杰克逊
with Michael Jackson
people talk about their natural gifts
大家会谈论他们的天赋
似乎和方法 技巧都无关
as if there’s not strategy and skill and craft
如果迈尔斯戴维斯没上过茱莉亚学院
as if Miles Davis didn’t go to Juilliard
如果巴斯奎特不知道莫奈和雷诺瓦是谁
or Basquiat didn’t know who Monet and Renoir were
如果迈克尔杰克逊没有终其一生从事其中
or Michael Jackson hadn’t been doing this his entire life.
我最喜欢的作曲之一就是约翰尼梅瑟
Some of my favorite writers are Johnny Mercer
埃尔文柏林 乔治盖希文 杜克埃林顿 贝西伯爵
Irving Berlin, George Gershwin, Duke Ellington, Count Basie.
不不不 你得付出努力 得花时间
No, no, no, you gotta put the work in, man. You gotta put the time in.
And really, man, it’s love that you put in there.
而且关键确实要热爱
从事其中的人 我们都热爱我们所做的
You know, ’cause people that do this kind of stuff, man, we love what we do.
今天是1979年11月6日
This is dated November 6, 1979.
他和他的兄弟们 在「命运」巡演期间
He was on the road with his brothers on the “Destiny” tour.
我要用MJ这个新名字 不再叫迈克尔杰克逊
“MJ will be my new name. No more Michael Jackson.
我想要一个全新的身价 全新的面貌
“I want a whole new character, a whole new look
我应该成为一个完全不同的人
“I should be a totally different person.
不能让别人只把我看做唱《ABC》《我要你回来》的小孩
“People should never think of me as the kid who sang ABC, I Want You Back.
我应该成为一个全新的 了不起的演员 歌♥手 舞者 我要改变世界
“I should be a new, incredible actor, singer, dancer that will shock the world.
我不会再接受采访 我要充满魔力
“I will do no interviews. I will be magic.
我要成为一名完美主义者 我要从事研究 训练 要成为大♥师♥
“I will be a perfectionist, a researcher, a trainer, a masterer.
我要比其他所有人加在一起更历害
“I will be better than every great actor roped in one.
我一定要有最了不起的训练体系
“I must have the most incredible training system
要不停的挖掘 直到找到为止
“to dig and dig and dig until I find.
我会学习 并回头看看
“I will study and look back
整个娱乐界 并将其完善
“on the whole world of entertainment, and perfect it
让其在伟大前人的基础上更进几步
“take it steps further from where the greatest left off.”
地方电视新闻采访 阿♥拉♥巴马州蒙哥马利市 1976年4月30日
你们现在已经取得了很高的成就 也在直接制♥作♥唱片和歌♥曲
You guys are really riding a big high now as far as producing records and so on.
你们觉得已经达到了职业生涯的巅峰
You think this is the peak of your career now
还是有所下坡
or have you gone down a little bit
or are you expecting bigger and better things?
还是觉得会有更好的未来
你觉得你们的未来如何 迈克尔
What are you looking forward to in the future, Michael?
给其他歌♥手录音 从事表演
Recording other artists and going into acting.
灵魂列车 1975年10月5日
我们收到了很多剧本
We get a lot of scripts in
不过还没找到想演的
but we haven’t found the exact script that we want to use.
所以还在挑选决定中
So, we’re picking and deciding.
你认为你有一天会成为电影明星吗
Think you may be a big movie star one day?
是的 我想试试
Yeah, I’d like to give it a try.
这行业也不错 你外表也不错
Yeah, it’s a good business to be in. You’ve got the looks, you know.
还好我没有…
Fortunately, I didn’t…
怎么
What?
随着电影的出现《绿野仙踪》电影被多次翻拍
With the advent of motion pictures, came an abundance of Oz films.
1925年的版本中奥列佛哈台饰演铁皮人
A 1925 version starred Oliver Hardy as the Tin Man.
1939年由朱迪嘉兰主演的美高梅音乐剧版本也令人难忘
And who’ll ever forget the 1939 MGM musical version starring Judy Garland.
1974年 百老汇上演《新绿野仙踪》一举夺下七项托尼奖
ln 1974, The Wiz opened on Broadway, winning seven Tony Awards.
那时我在读高中
I was a senior in high school
我喜欢上一个叫芭芭拉汉普顿的女孩
and there was this girl named Barbara Hampton, who I liked
我想让她注意到我
and I wanted to impress her.
我在芭斯罗缤打工
I was working at Baskin-Robbins.
存了些钱 最后终于鼓起勇气问她
I just saved my money, I finally got enough courage to ask her
你愿意和我去看场《新绿野仙踪》吗
“Would you like to go see The Wiz with me?
我有两张位置不错的票 靠中间
“I got two great seats. They’re center aisle.”
她说「恐怕不行」
She said, “No, I don’t think so.”
我就用两倍的价格倒卖♥♥出去了
Scalped them for double the price.
迈克尔第一次看《新绿野仙踪》是我带去的 之后又回去看了三十多次
I took Michael the first time to see The Wiz, he went back 30 more times.
1978年的《新绿野仙踪》
The Wiz, when it came out in 1978
巴瑞迈克尔库珀 编剧 作品:《万恶城市》《义胆情深》
吕美特把长♥期♥上演的好音乐剧改编成电影
was Lumet’s movie adaptation of that great, long-running play
这是史蒂芬妮米尔斯的百老汇版本
that was on Broadway with Stephanie Mills.
斯蒂芬妮米尔斯 饰「多萝茜」 最初百老汇阵容(1975-1977年)
这是一次了不起的争论 起码在我所在的地方附近是这样
There was a great debate, at least in my neighborhood
戴安娜罗斯是…
that, Diana Ross was dope, but
她被选中只因为她是戴安娜罗斯
the only reason why they cast her is ’cause she’s Diana Ross.
斯蒂芬妮米尔斯可能更适合电影
Stephanie Mills would have been a better fit for the film
但是不管出于什么原因 她都没得到这个角色
but for whatever reason, she didn’t get the job.
我们要采用不知名的年轻女演员
We’re not gonna do it with an unknown, young actress.
我们得利用些明星效应 好让这一「跨界」能成功
We have to have the star power to make it “cross over.”
罗伯科恩 《新绿野仙踪》制♥作♥人
它当时也是
It also was
乔舒马赫 编剧 《新绿野仙踪》《洗车场》《闪耀的火花》
是美国黑人电影中造价最高的一部
the most expensive movie ever made with an all African-American cast.
因为《洗车场》和《闪耀的火花》
So, because of Car Wash and Sparkle
好莱坞就是这种情况
you know, this happens in Hollywood
你是被任命去找黑人来演的吗
were you designated as the go-to guy for black material?
-我是黑人电影编剧 -黑人电影编剧
-I was the black writer. -The black writer, huh?
西德尼或许是当时美国最好的导演
And Sidney was probably the number one American director right then
因为他拍过《冲突》《炎热的下午》
’cause he had done Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon
《电视台风云》《东方快车谋杀案》
Network, Murder on the Orient Express
应该是陆续拍的
I think, all in a row.
-他就是电影之王 -没错
-He was king. -Right.
显然也是纽约之王
And definitely, king of New York.
迈克尔特别想演稻草人
Michael was desperate to play the Scarecrow.
他一直想拍电影
He always wanted to have a film career.
有传言说 他本来可以主演
There was some rumor that he was supposed to star
讲述弗兰基莱蒙故事的电影 不过没成
in the Frankie Lymon story. That never happened.
《新绿野仙踪》应该是部大电影
The Wiz was supposed to be a huge film.
主演是他的老友戴安娜罗斯
Diana Ross, his longtime pal, was starring in it.
他已经不在摩城了 迈克尔打给伯瑞高迪
He’s no longer at Motown, and Michael called Berry Gordy.
我们在拍《新绿野仙踪》
We were doing The Wiz.
由罗伯科恩负责
Rob Cohen was handling it.
他在摩城制♥作♥给我做过事
He was working for me at the time with Motown Productions.
他可以轻易地说一句
It would have been very easy for him to say
迈克尔 你已经离开 我们还是找别人吧
“Well, you know, Michael, you’re gone now, and I think we’ll find somebody else.”
西德尼坚决不想用迈克尔
Sidney was adamant that he didn’t want Michael.
罗伯科恩 《新绿野仙踪》制♥作♥人
他觉得迈克尔过气了
He felt Michael was over
他本来是个可爱的音乐童星 可是后来好好走下去
and had been a cute, little kid, musical star, but hadn’t grown into it.
我就说「你错了 我希望你能见见他」
And I just said, “You’re making a mistake, and I want you to meet him.”
莲娜荷恩
西德尼吕美特
当然 吕美特马上就中意了迈克尔
Of course, Lumet fell in love with Michael.
西德尼吕美特 《新绿野仙踪》导演
迈克尔可能是我见过的最纯粹的天才
Michael may be the purest talent I’ve ever seen.
他不可能犯错
He’s incapable of a false moment.
他如此华实 他周围的事物也必须真实
He’s so true that anything around him has to become true.
如果在他身边没有真诚地工作 看上去就会是假装的
If you don’t work honestly around him, you’re gonna look as if you’re faking it.
是的 他就是这样
Well, yeah, he’s all those things
而且他会唱歌♥跳舞 他人无所能及
plus, this kid can dance and sing like nobody else.
很明显能看出这孩子的天分 他表演起来毫不费力
It was so obvious, the genius of this boy, I mean, it was so effortless.
我很小的时候 看过《绿野仙踪》最早的版本
When I was real small, when I saw the original Wizard of Oz
朱迪嘉兰那一版
the Judy Garland version
我就爱上了稻草人 我想很多孩子都会爱上他吧
I always fell in love with the Scarecrow, I think most kids do
因为你会为他感到惋惜他的个性也很吸引我
because you feel sorry for him, and everything, and his character.
我总会看着他
And I always watched him.
其实我还学会了他们的走路方式
Matter of fact, I had the step down they did
六岁左右时我会在家里这么走来走去
when I was around six, I would do it all around the house.
沿着黄砖路走
“Follow the yellow brick road.”
《新绿野仙踪》(1978年) 《轻松前行》 导演:西德尼吕美特
来啊 多萝茜快来
Come on, Dorothy! Come on!
其实我们拍《轻松前行》时需要往山上走
Matter of fact, that hill that we do Ease on Down the Road was going uphill.
戴安娜和我都累得上气不接下气
And, Diana and me, we were so out of breath
我们还得拍好几遍
we had to do it a couple of times, really.
真的是直线上山
I mean, it was going straight up.
他每天早上都会来化五个小时的妆
He’d come in for a five-hour makeup call in the morning
不让化妆占用拍戏时间
get the makeup out of the way
他知道每个人的台词 每个人的歌♥曲
right on the case, he knew everybody’s lines, everybody’s songs
他了解每个人的位置 他站在那就注意到了
he knew everybody’s position, and he stood there, almost at attention.
昆西琼斯 迈克尔杰克逊的制♥作♥人
我注意到了他这么一个年轻人 竟然如此专业 难以置信
I saw this uncanny type of discipline in such a young person.
昆西是音乐导演 负责《新绿野仙踪》的配乐
Quincy, of course, was the musical director. He was doing the score for The Wiz.
他出现了一会儿 对吧
You see him for a minute, right?
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