列奥纳多（2021）

that even a genius like Leonardo da Vinci
也需要有人推动他向前
needed someone to keep pushing him forward.
因为每个艺术家总会陷入自我怀疑
Because every artist is plagued with self-doubt,
这部剧集深入探究了这点
and the show explores that quite a bit.
所以 斯福扎总是对他说是
So Sforza was the person who was there to say to him,
“是的 有可能 只管干 ”
“No, it’s possible. Do it.”
每当你拍一部关于真实人物的电影时
Whenever you make a film about a real character,
不管他是圣雄甘地
doesn’t matter if it’s Mahatma Gandhi
穆♥罕♥默♥德♥·阿里 还是 列奥纳多·达芬奇
or Muhammad Ali or Leonardo da Vinci,
令人恐惧的是 每个人对这些人物都有看法
it’s terrifying that they’re people that everyone has some idea of,
不管你做什么 你总要被严厉地批判
and you’re going to be judged harshly, whatever you do.
这个角色没有完美的版本
There’s no perfect version of this character.
只有你能呈现的版本
There’s just the version that you can present.
我想每当你再现历史人物
And I think every time you represent someone from history,
您有责任尽可能真实地表现他们的性格
you have a responsibility to be as truthful as possible to their character.
与此同时 您还有责任
But at the same time, you have responsibility
用可能的最好方式讲最好的故事
to tell the best story in the best possible way
无论是谁…无论是你招募来演这个人的演员
regardless of who– the actor you cast to play that person,
还是 你选择写谁
or how you choose to write.
我们不得不在3月9日停止拍摄
We had to stop shooting on March 9th.
在休息时间 我是说 在午餐时间
At break time, I mean, at lunchtime,
从下午开始 我们开始思考
and from the afternoon we started thinking about
我们如何才能重新打开我们的电影设备
how we could reopen our film sets.
我们不得不停机几个月
We had to stop production for months.
我们只是被迫停工
We just had to stop,
我们不知道我们是否还要参演
and we didn’t know if we’d have a show or not.
全世界拍摄的每部作品
And every production that was shooting
都存在这个问题
all over the world has had exactly this problem.
这要归功于Lux vide和Sony 以及设法使之工作的每个人
It’s a credit to Lux vide and Sony and everyone who managed to make it work.
这是一个巨大的考验
It’s a huge ordeal.
到处都是单向交流
You have one-way systems around everywhere
并且 不同部门之间无法开会
and different departments not meeting each other.
这是一个巨大的…对全部事情在地理上
It’s a huge… The geography of the whole thing,
进行协调…是拍摄一部电视剧的首要事情
to orchestrate it, in itself is… On top of shooting a TV show.
太疯狂了
It’s just crazy.
Lux Vide在新冠期间设法使这部剧重回正轨
How extraordinary it is that Lux Vide has managed to get this show
着实不寻常
back up on its feet during COVID.
他们非常努力地确保我们
And they’ve worked exceptionally hard
都经过了病毒测试 每周我们都测试
to make sure we’re all tested. Weekly, we’re tested.
因此在新冠期间 我们有了安全的工作环境
And that we have a safe working environment for COVID.
我们付出了巨大的努力 几乎是超人般的努力
We put in a huge effort, almost a superhuman effort
最终 我们6月8日恢复了拍摄
to resume shooting, which we did on June 8th.
我必须说 每个人都非常努力
I must say that everybody worked very hard
从在各自家中隔离多日
from their homes, the places where they were spending their lockdown days,
直到恢复拍摄成为可能
to make this possible.
看到剧组如何成功地将如此庞大的作品…
So that’s been amazing to see how this crew
在短时间内又重新组织起来
has managed to put together such a huge production again
同时确保每个人的安全 真是太神奇了
in such a short period of time, and keep it safe for everybody.
真的很鼓舞人心
That’s really inspiring.
首先 我很幸运能够重返工作岗位
I, first of all, feel very lucky to be able to be back working.
在意大利 受到冠状病毒严重打击的每个人
Everyone here in Italy that was obviously so hard hit
已经擅长采取
by the coronavirus has been wonderful at
所有必要的预防措施，并确保人们感到
putting in all the necessary precautions and making sure that people feel
回去上班也很安全
as safe as they need to in order to go back to work.
我们有几英亩的土地 我们在这些土地上重建了街道
We have acres, hectares here of land where we’ve recreated streets
建筑 室内装饰和广场
and buildings and interiors and piazzas
这样我们就可以继续拍摄
so that we can keep filming
并创建尽可能多的场景
and create as many locations as we can.
我们考虑了许多可行的选项
We considered many viable options,
因此在欧洲 我们第一个
so much so that in Europe, we were the first
在如此复杂作品上恢复工作
to resume working on such a complex production work,
我的意思是 恢复到这种水平
I mean, something at this level.
如何在电影场景中让演员彼此相邻
How to have actors next to each other on the film set,
因为 你知道 我们不能让他们戴口罩
because, you know, we couldn’t have them wear face masks.
如何消毒清洁
How to disinfect and clean
大量服装和道具
an enormous amount of costumes and props.
我们买♥♥了一些COVID-19喷雾机
We bought some COVID-19 fogging machines
对在电影场景中穿过的衣服进行消毒
to disinfect the clothes worn by those who entered the film sets,
然后还有测温装置
and then also temperature check devices,
不仅消毒他们的衣服，还消毒他们的身体
sanitizing not only their clothes but also their bodies.
我觉得协议很棒
I feel like the protocols are terrific.
我们一直都在接受测试 所有工作人员都在接受测试
We’re tested all the time, everyone on the crew is tested.
每个人都戴着口罩
Everybody is wearing masks.
尽可能安全
It’s as safe as it could be.
在这些协议下工作有点奇怪
It’s a bit weird working under these protocols,
我不想骗你
I won’t lie to you.
因为理解我的工作是很难的
Because it’s very difficult to understand my job
若不能走近演员与剧务的话
without being close to both cast and crew.
但是我觉得我们工作在
But I have the feeling that we’re working
如此安全的环境中 并且 制片方
in a very safe environment, and the production
采取了很多措施来保护我们
has taken a lot of measures to protect us.
因此我觉得 我很镇定 我可以做好我的工作。
So I have the feeling that I’m calm and I can do my job well.
这项工作涉及”关系”
This job is about relationship,
待在一起 共同演戏
it’s about being together and playing together.
我们都感到非常幸运能够重返剧场 并做我们最爱的事情
We all feel very blessed to be back on set and do what we love the most,
因为我们明白在生活中
because we understand that it is not something
这不是理所当然的
to take for granted in life.
对我来说 创作这部剧最重要的事情之一 就是
One of the most important things to me in creating this show
使这部剧尽可能地真实
was to make it as authentic as possible.
看故事
And look at the story
尽可能以列奥纳多的眼光
through Leonardo’s eyes as much as possible.
他有哪些可用的资源?
What were the resources available to him?
他有哪些可用的材料?
What were the materials available to him?
他实际上是如何绘画自己的艺术作品的?
How did he actually paint his art?
他的技巧是什么?
What were his skills?
他如何向他们学习?
How did he learn them?
马上参观艺术部门
Straight away, getting a tour of the art department
只是看一下他们完成的作品
and just seeing the work that they had done
以及他们必须要做的 真是令人叹为观止
and that they had to do was quite breathtaking, actually.
一部这样的电影需要200多人为之工作
A film set like this involves over 200 people working in it.
同一天同时要拍摄两个 有时是三个 单元
Two, sometimes three units shooting at the same time on the same day.
我们开♥发♥并部分建造了数十个场景
We developed and partly built dozens of locations.
60,70套不同的电影布景
Sixty, seventy different film sets.
我们占地面♥积♥至少600-700平方米
We covered an area of at least 600-700 square meters.
我们在佛罗伦萨城外 有一个非常大的电影布景
We have a very large film set, all outside Florence,
要重建在一块（实际上很多）地上
that we’re going to reconstruct in a plot, a back lot actually,
那里靠近电影屋工作室
near the Filmhouse Studios.
挑战真的很大
The challenge was really huge.
盖楼
Building…
在罗马 在意大利 可能二十多年
something that probably hadn’t been done for over 20 years
都没有做过这样的事情了
here in Rome and in Italy.
这是一部老式电影
A film set of yesteryear
就作品的容量、扩展范围和复杂程度而言
in terms of volumes, extension, and complexity of… production.
在艺术部门 在这间办公室
In the Art Department, here in this office,
我们基本上也就五、六个人
we’re basically five, six people.
然后是装饰部门 还有另外的六、七个人
Then there’s the Decorators Department, accounting for another six, seven people.
然后是木工部门
Then there’s the Carpentry Department,
石膏部门 还有搭建场景的团队
a department of plasterers, then companies building the scenes.
全部算上会超过150人
Totally, it could be more than 150 people.
当然只有在这个项目上才这样
Of course only in such a project
这个项目中几乎一切都到重建
where almost everything has been completely rebuilt.
这个结构包括两个城市
This structure includes two cities
佛罗伦萨和米兰
Florence and Milan.
街道 小巷 建筑物 宫殿
Streets, alleys, buildings, palaces,
还有 教堂
and churches.
所有这些建筑都很复杂…
Building all this was such a complex undertaking…
这是佛罗伦萨的模型
This is the Florence model,
它是一个比例模型
which is a scale model.
对于所有场地调度和摄影机运动的方向指示，
It is useful for the direction
对于演员与群戏场景而言
in terms of all stage movements
它都是很有用的