然后他们带着我 就跟一个病人一样 我们去剧院
And then they take me, like an ill person I came to the theater.
我甚至认为我会哭 然后我开始看那部电影
Even I think I will cry. And I start to see the picture…
然后一步一步
and step by step, step by step, step by step…
我开始变得很开心 因为那部电影很糟糕
I became happy because the picture was awful!
《沙丘》1984年 导演:大卫·林奇 主演:迪诺·德·劳伦提斯
我们来找你*
We come for you!

这是个失败品
Is a failure!
好吧 这是个本能反应是吧?
Well, it’s a human reaction, no?
自言自语
这很不好 但我有这样的反应
Is not beautiful, but I have that reaction.
我说 这不可能 这部是大卫·林奇拍的 他可是个大艺术家
I say, “ls not possible. ls not David Lynch because he is a big artist.”
是制片人做的
ls the producer who did that.
我没看过那部电影 而我也永远不会看
I’ve never seen the movie and I never will.

佐杜洛夫斯基是那个时代的先驱
Jodorowsky was ahead of his time.
最大的问题是他带来了
The big problem was that he was bringing in…
很多想法要人们花上几十年来实现
a lot of ideas which take people decades to process.
当你想要改变观众的感觉
When you want to change the consciousness of the audience…
你想要改变好莱坞管理层的感觉
you want to change the consciousness of the Hollywood executives…
改变整个社会生态
and alter the whole ecology…
你必须像行星学家科尼思一样极度耐心
you have to be extremely patient, like Kynes the planetologist.
这些要花上上千年
These things take thousands of years.
这些想法很缓慢的渗透整个系统
And very slowly these ideas might permeate the system.
但乔多尝试了 并希望这能实现
But Jodo was try… Was hoping it would happen…
在他一生的时光里 此刻便会实现
within his lifetime, that it would happen now…
事实是这可能要好几代人才能完成
and the truth of the matter is that it may take generations…
在电影能真正鼓舞人就像 乔多所期望的一样
before movies actually aspire to the level that Jodo is wishing for.
在这些失败当中 有很多创造性的东西
From this supposed failure, come a lot of creation.
在生活中 有事发生 你说好
In the life, thing come, you say “yes.”
事情消逝 你说好的
Thing go away, you say “yes.”
我们没拍《沙丘》好
We don’t do Dune? Yes!
这就是 对 我们没拍它
That is, yes, we don’t do it!
那又如何?
And then so what?
那又如何?
And then so what?
《沙丘》就像一个梦一样 改变了世界的梦
Dune is in the world like a dream, but dreams change the world also.
《沙丘》就像保罗一样
Dune is like Paul, so Dune was…
像被割喉 电影被砍
Its throat was cut, of the film.
电影没拍成 电影观砍杀
The film wasn’t made, the film was killed.
但 你可以听到
But, you know, you can hear in some films:
我是《沙丘》 我是《沙丘》
“I am Dune, I am Dune, I am Dune.
我觉得这是一个指引
I think it was a guide.
指向一些东西的
A guide for some.
无论如何 我相信我们的故事版
In any case, I am convinced that our storyboard…
让好莱坞对我们刮目相看
made the rounds in the halls of Hollywood.
我无法想象这样的实例 这让我可以想象
I can’t imagine that isn’t the case. It pleases me to imagine that.
你要一直往积极方面看
You always have to see the positive.
77年的《星球大战》
The original Star Wars, the ’77 film…
影评家:德鲁·麦克维尼
有许多*
there’s a lot of visual reference from what Jodorowsky laid out on paper.
比如说剑斗场面
Just the way his sword fights were designed.
这是极大的影响
There’s a huge amount of influence.

这是一个保罗在跟机器人斗争的训练场景
There’s a scene of Paul dueling with a robot and doing training…
就像卢克跟这个球体斗争一样
and it’s a lot like Luke dueling with the ball…
在千年集号♥
in the Millennium Falcon.
我找到有趣的
What I found interesting…
影评家:德文·法拉奇
是*
is there’s shots from the robot’s P.O.V…
机器人有一个思维敏捷的展示
where the robot has a heads-up display…
他在分♥析♥他周围的环境
where he’s analyzing the environment around him.
我一直在想 我不能早点反复 想到这个场景
And I was thinking about it, and I can’t think of an earlier iteration of this scene…
就是我们现在能反复看到的
which we’ve all seen now a thousand times.
终结者正在分♥析♥某个人的脸部
The Terminator looking at somebody and analyzing their face.
《终结者》1984年 导演:詹姆斯·卡梅隆
这是那部没有拍摄的电影的一些东西
It’s one of these things where this is a movie that never got made…
但他却影响了很多后续的电影
but it has its fingerprints all over so many other movies that came afterwards.
《飞侠哥顿》1980年 导演:麦克·霍吉斯
主殿构图
一把抢过眼镜
元老会成员的眼睛因为 食用香料而变蓝
《夺宝奇兵》1981年 导演:史蒂芬·斯皮尔伯格
保罗在恍惚中站起来
爬到洞穴顶端
然后下来迎接弗莱门人
烟雾弥漫
天下大乱
《决胜时空战区》1987年 导演:加里·戈达德
拉近
进入银河系一片纯白
繁星无数 五光十色
《超时空接触》1997年 导演:罗伯特·泽米吉斯
《普罗米修斯》2012年 导演:雷德利·斯科特
吉格 他设计了《异形》怪物
Giger. He make the monster of Alien.

《异形》1979年 导演:雷德利·斯科特
为什么他要做《异形》怪物?
Why he make the monster of Alien?
因为丹·奥班农
Because Dan O’Bannon.
《异形》编剧:丹·奥班农 罗纳德·苏赛特
奥班农塑造了异形*
O’Bannon create Alien.
他们有摩比斯 吉格还有福斯
They take Moebius, they take Giger, Foss.
好莱坞开始使用我的团队
And Hollywood start to use my group.
我们都觉得不可思议
Was very fantastic.
《沙丘》是大型的小行星
Dune is this massive asteroid…
离地球也很近
that has a near miss with Earth…
但它还是想来追求地球
but it still manages to seed the Earth…
带着这些惊人的抱子
with all these amazing spores.
总之佐杜洛夫斯基的《沙丘》没有拍成
In a world where Jodorowsky’s Dune doesn’t happen…
也许也没有《异形》
maybe Alien doesn’t happen, and when Alien doesn’t happen…
也没有《银翼杀手》
Blade Runner doesn’t happen.
没有 《银翼杀手》 也没有威廉·吉布森
There’s no Blade Runner, there’s no William Gibson.
没有《骇客帝国》 所有东西都会没有
There’s no Matrix, there’s no… All these other things…
有一些会有组织的出现在这
that sort of come organically down this line.
很多人带着想象和想法
A lot of people took images and ideas with them…
让他们在其他项目里也不合作
and incorporated them into other projects…
说来说去还是要回到佐杜洛夫斯基
so it always leads back to Jodorowsky.
当你处在这样一个联♥系♥着一生的进程中
When you get involved in the process of bringing a beast like this to life…
当你没有机会去实现它
and when you don’t get the chance to realize that…
无法把你脑海里的东西放到屏幕上
to put the thing on screen, it goes on living inside your head.
你就再也不能摆脱它了
You never get a chance to exorcise it.
这样的故事会不断在徘徊
And a story like that can stick around and stick around…
让你魂牵梦绕
and goes on haunting your dreams…
你余生都会受这个煎熬 除非它能够实现
for the rest of your life unless you can get it out.
然后摩比斯跟我说 你要怎么做 你会死去?
And then Moebius say to me, “What you will do? You will die?”
不会 我不会死去
No, I will not die.
对我来说失败只是换了个方法罢了
For me to fail is only to change the way.
如果我们不做的话
If we don’t do that…
我们以前做的《沙丘》
the Dune we was doing is…
赫伯特是《沙丘》的根源 但现在《沙丘》就是我们
The roots are the Dune of Herbert. But this Dune is us.
是视觉性的 是富有创造性的
Is the optical. ls a creation.
然后 我会用我放在《沙丘》里的 元素去创造宇宙
And then, I will use everything I put in Dune to make comics.
我跟摩比斯说 我们为什么不创造一个宇宙
I say to Moebius, “Why we don’t do a comic?”
于是我开始创作英卡尔
And I start to dictate The Incar.
赋予了很多想象在里面
A lot of images that are in here are in here.

佐杜一摩比斯
然后我找到一个阿根廷人 一个西班牙人胡安·西蒙尼斯
And then I find an Argentine, a Spanish, Juan Gimenez.
我把我在《沙丘》里创造的宇宙飞船 都放到《合金男爵》里
And there I make all the spaceship I design for Dune are in The Metabarons.
即使是《沙丘》的明神星 我也把他阉♥割♥了
Even the Duke Leto. I made him castrated by a bull…
然后我们找到一个魔术师 提取了他的一滴血
and we find the sorcerer who will take a drop of his blood…
为了创造这些孩子
in order to make the child.
在这 就跟我在拍电影一样
I did it here, is here, like I was shooting! I did it.
我从《沙丘》开始 但我走得更远了
I start with Dune, but I go farther, no? Farther.
我继续了我的作品
I continue and I did it, my work.
我坚信《沙丘》会很独特 如果有人能拿走这些脚本
I think Dune will be fantastic if somebody take this script…
即使我不在了
even if I am not alive…
制♥作♥一部电影动画片
and do a picture in animation.
现在有可能了
Now is possible.
我会死去 他们会拍我的电影
I can die, they can do my picture.

我84岁了 但我仍在创作
I have 84 years, but I am still creating.
我不是
I am not:
我一生创作的 会很多很多
All my life I create, and is more and more and more.
思维就像宇宙
The mind is like a universe.
不断地扩大
It’s constantly expanding.

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