独立游戏大电影（2012）

Then it was Castle Crashers
《时空幻境》和《粘粘世界》
and Braid and World of Goo.
《星噬》在2009年和2010年表现也很好
Osmos did really well in 2009, 2010.
然后《地狱边境》上市打破了销♥售♥记录
Then Limbo came out and kinda blew the records.
之后就是《我的世界》
And Minecraft came out as well,
严格讲《我的世界》早就推出了
Actually, it came out much earlier,
现在才逐渐成形
but then it really built up and
同样也打破了销♥售♥记录
blew those records away.
而且这里说的”大放异彩”
And when we’re talking about ‘really well’
是至少有了上百万的收入
we’re talking about millions of dollars in revenue.
如果团队有两百人
So for teams of 200,
几百万美元算不上什么
millions of dollars doesn’t really count very much.
可如果只有几个人
But for a team of 2, 3, 4 people…
这就是一笔相当可观的收入了
that’s really significant money.
各位听众好 欢迎收听《极客有话说》节目
Hey everybody, welcome to ‘Elder Speak’,
加利福尼亚州 圣克鲁斯
资深极客网的官方播客
the official podcast of ElderGeek.com.
今天还是嘉文和我播报新闻
With me I’ve always got Gavin from the news,
而特邀嘉宾
and special guests:
正是人称”肉肉组”的埃德蒙和汤米
I’ve got Edmund and Tommy from ‘Team Meat’
他们就是《超级肉肉哥》的创造者
who are making ‘Super Meat Boy’.
今天来到现场的是”肉肉组”
So, with us today is Team Meat…
“肉肉组”
Team Meat…
独♥立♥游戏节上几乎所有人
Everybody in the indie scene
都被这款游戏迷住了
is raving about this…
肉肉哥来了 肉肉哥来了
Meat Boy’s Coming! Meat Boy’s Coming!
超级肉肉哥就要来了 这句话随处可见
Super Meat Boy’s coming! It was all over the place.
这是我们最重大的一次访谈了
This is our biggest interview ever isn’t it?
就算你与世隔绝几个月 你也会…
If you’ve been living under a rock for the last few months…
今秋最受期待的一部游戏
Most anticipated releases this fall…
新年最受期待游戏
看起来太棒了 我等不及要玩成品了
It is looking amazing! I can not wait to see the finish product…
《超级肉肉哥》
我们说过要把《超级肉肉哥》
I think we both talked about approaching Super Meat Boy in a way
做出自己的个性…让这个游戏
we are like…our goal was to make a game
被13岁时的自己疯狂追捧
that our 13 year-old selves would be super huge fan boys of her.
《超级肉肉哥》已经开♥发♥了11个月
我敢肯定如果13岁的Edmund
I know for a fact that 13 year-old Edmund
听说了这部《超级肉肉哥》
would hear about Meat Boy right now,
一定会在推特上关注我们
he’d be following us on Twitter.
他肯定会不停地说
He’d be that annoying kid that was like…
-发给我一版吧 -对啊 我都关注你了
– Hey, send me a build! – Yeah, I’m following you.
我的名字是”超级肉肉哥死忠粉”
My name is ‘Super Meat Boy Fan Boy’
我已经注册了 但我还没玩到呢
I’ve registered it, I haven’t even played the game yet.
-发个试玩版给我吧 求你了 -真够了
– Can you get me a demo!?! Come on!!! -Just shut up.
我肯定会这样 因为这游戏个人色彩很浓
I’d totally be that. Because this game is very me.
我觉得汤米肯定也有同感
And I think Tommy would say the same.
我希望这款游戏能让玩过的小孩们
Yeah, I want it to be one of those games that kids would
在校园里疯狂地讨论
go crazy for on the school yard…
激烈争辩着”这个游戏比那个游戏好”
and passionately argue that ‘this game is better than this game’
游戏设计师
程序员
北卡罗来纳州 阿什维尔
汤米父母的家
电脑天才
这就是我的房♥间 我一直都住这
This is my room…where I grew up…
从小到大
as a child.
这间屋子一直是我的房♥间
Yeah, this is my room forever this has been my room.
我贴了不少《任天堂力量》[杂♥志♥]里附赠的海报
I have a bunch of posters from ‘Nintendo Power’
都是很久以前的了
way back in the day.
没错 这个房♥间就是我的童年
Yeah, this room is my childhood.
就像《超级肉肉哥》一样
And that’s basically what Super Meat Boy is.
这游戏就是我和埃德蒙的童年
It’s my and Edmund’s childhood,
只不过被两个看上去长大了的人做成了游戏
but put into game form by seemingly adult males.
将在PC和主机平台发♥售♥的《超级肉肉哥》
Super Meat Boy is an upcoming PC and console game
原型是一款Flash小游戏
based on a Flash game.
这个难度极高的小游戏人气非常火爆
This incredibly hard Flash game that was super super popular.
这款游戏算是很复古的
It’s a game that looks like it’s gonna be traditional in a way.
是横版过关 还讲了吃肉的故事
It’s about ‘Platforming’ and it’s about this very well known thing.
但其艺术风格非常鲜明
But it’s got a real distinct art style
而且拥有奇特的世界观设定
and it’s got a kind of very quirky point of view.
《超级肉肉哥》是复古的横版过关游戏
Super Meat Boy is a retro sort of platformer,
你将操控一个没有皮肤的男孩
where you play as a boy with no skin,
简单来说就只有肉
who’s just meat, basically.
他努力想拯救他的女友绷带妹
He’s trying to rescue his girlfriend, who is made of bandages.
为此要对抗一个坐在罐子里
from an evil doctor, that’s a fetus in a jar,
西装革履还戴着单片眼镜的的邪恶婴儿博士
wearing a top hat and a monocle, dressed in a tuxedo.
我的青少年时期
During my whole development years,
就是上中学什么的那段时期
going through middle school and everything,
我经常玩《洛克人》
it was all ‘Mega Man’,
《超级马里奥》 《银河战士》
‘Mario’ and ‘Metroid’
很古老 也很难的游戏
older, very very difficult games.
这些游戏全都
All of these games like…
我这墙上贴的每一个游戏
Every one of these games on this wall…
《零式赛车》很难
‘F Zero’ was hard …
《洛克人》非常难
‘Mega Man’ was very difficult.
《间谍猎人》变♥态♥难
‘Spy Hunter’ was stupidly difficult.
在制♥作♥《超级肉肉哥》时
In Super Meat Boy,
我们想做什么都可以
we get to do whatever we want.
我们没有出版商 也没有投资人
We don’t have a publisher. We don’t have investors.
我们不用受制于任何人
We don’t answer to anybody.
这种状态也体现在了游戏里
And a lot of that is shown in the game.
很多内容我们可以放手去做
We get away with a lot of stuff.
比如说我们能让婴儿博士竖中指
We can have Dr. Fetus shoot somebody a bird.
因为他只有三根手指
Because he only has 3 fingers.
所以严格来说那也不能算中指
So it’s not technically his middle finger.
我们还能做一些恶搞致敬的桥段进去
We can put in any sort of humor or parody that we want.
我们恶搞了《街头霸王》还有《恶魔城》
We have parodies of ‘Street Fighter’ and ‘Castlevania’…
还有模仿《洛克人》和《泡泡龙》的过场
‘Mega Man’ intros and ‘Bubble Bobble’.
再过7个月《超级肉肉哥》
就要在Xbox平台上发♥售♥了
很多人都想知道
A lot of people want to know:
这款游戏是否名副其实
Is this game going to be substantial?
还是只有搞怪的人物和宣传噱头
Or is it gonna be all the quirk and character?
很多人对这款游戏的看法就是
A lot of people are thinking that it’s going to be
这大概是一款与《城♥堡♥毁灭者》差不多的游戏
sort of along the same lines of Castle Crashers
2008年《城♥堡♥毁灭者》 和《时空幻境》
In 2008, ‘Castle Crashers’ and ‘Braid’
这两款游戏头一回让玩家觉得
were the 2 games that really made people look at go:
“原来从Xbox上下载的游戏还挺好玩”
‘Oh, I can download games on my Xbox.’
人们期待这款游戏
People are expecting this game
成为XBLA上下一个大热门
to be the next big thing on XBLA.
只要游戏能发布 卖♥♥掉几份
As long as it comes out and does something …
哪怕只能让我接下来两年里赚上两万美元
Even if it made me $ 20,000 over the next 2 years or something,
也足够我做下一款游戏了
That would be enough to make the next game,
如果按我现在的开销算的话
just based on what I’m living off right now.
而且我肯定会这样
And I’d have to do that, because…
我决不会去EA或者Epic这样的大公♥司♥工作
I’m not going to go work at EA or Epic.
真是想想就害怕
That sounds horrible. That sounds like hell to me.
所以如果发♥售♥了 玩家不喜欢
So, if it comes out and people don’t like it,
甚至破口大骂 摔手柄怒删
and people just trash it and hate it,
哪怕媒体只给打20分
and it has a Metacritic score of, like, 20,
哪怕全世界都不喜欢
and everyone thinks its awful,
那也无所谓 因为
it doesn’t make a difference because
尽管这是款要拿出去卖♥♥的游戏
even though it’s a game that people are supposed to buy,
但这并不是我”为玩家”做的游戏
it’s not a game that I made ‘for people’.
我是为我自己做的
I made it for myself.
这款游戏里有埃德和我的影子
Ed and I made it as a reflection of ourselves.
我们把游戏做得尽可能好玩和容易上手
And we tried to make it as fun and as accessible as possible.
无所谓了
Whatever.
人们想买♥♥《使命召唤 现代战争》
If people want to buy ‘Modern Warfare’
或是《光晕 致远星》也没关系
or ‘Halo Reach’, that’s fine,
但我觉得这类游戏就是垃圾
because I think those games are shit.
如果人们喜欢那类游戏
If that’s what people want,
就肯定不会喜欢我做的游戏
then they don’t want my games that I make.
因为我不做垃圾游戏
Because I don’t make shit games.
菲斯帽
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