寻找黑暗（2019）

这三个词组合在一起的时候 尤其有力量
It’s just those three words just had such power especially when combined.
但是当我看过第一部时 我彻底傻眼了 它让我大吃一惊
But when I came out of Chainsaw, I was completely dumbfounded. lt just completely blew my mind
我意识到治疗电锯的方法不是看到它一百次再试图忽视它
and I realized that the cure for Chainsaw was not to see it a hundred times and try
而是成为索耶家族的一份子
to dismiss it, but it was basically to join the Sawyer family.
《德州电锯杀人狂2》（1986）
他已经被邀请去演一部小♥电♥影♥了
He had already been hired off of a little movie
拍的是恶搞的《德州电锯美甲狂》
he had made a parody called The Texas Chainsaw Manicure.
《德州电锯美甲狂》（1984）
托比拿到了一份拷贝 由此邀请了比尔
A copy of it got to Tobe and Tobe hired Bill off of that film.
我很震惊 Chop-Top是一个重要的部分
And I was shocked that Chop-Top was a big part.
《德州电锯杀人狂2》（1986）
《德州电锯杀人狂2》的理念非常幽默 我认为它真的令人
Now the idea that Chainsaw 2 had a great sense of humor to it, I think really took people
大吃一惊
by surprise.
我最喜欢的场景之一是Chop-Top的介绍 我进来威胁斯特雷奇
One of my favorite scenes is the introduction of Chop-Top and I come in to threaten Stretch,
就是卡洛琳·威廉姆斯扮演的DJ
Caroline Williams, the DJ.
她回到了唱片库 被皮脸和卢·佩里曼的I·G恐吓
She’s back on the record vault getting terrorized by Leatherface and I.G. Lou Perryman comes
然后我跳出跳台 用羊角锤砸他的头
in and l jump out of the record vault and start pounding his head in with a claw hammer.
锤子本身是泡沫橡胶
The hammer itself was foam rubber.
托比叫我行动的时候 我就开始打I·G的头
When Tobe would call action, I started pounding on I.G.’s head.
然后编几句台词 比如如果我有一把锤子 一二三
And making up stuff like if I had a hammer and a one and a two and a three
不停地敲打
and just pounding away.
我们拍了12次 托比说 太棒了 太棒了
We’ve done about 12 takes and Tobe goes yeah, yeah, that was great that was great.
我们再拍一次吧
Let’s just do one more take.
我看着托比问 我做错什么了吗
I looked at Tobe and I said Tobe, “Am I doing something wrong”
他看着我说 哦不 比尔 我只是看着你很开心
And he looked at me and he goes oh, hell no, Bill, I’m just having fun watching you.
毫无疑问 整部电影的标志性时刻就是电锯贴到我的两腿间
Undoubtedly the signature moment in the whole movie is the chainsaw between my legs.
这在当时被认为是一个反女权主义的时刻 恰恰相反 我认为它是
Considered to be at the time an anti-feminist moment, to the contrary I consider it to be
典型的女权主义时刻
the quintessential feminist moment.
这个女人 她几乎被一个电锯 被一个工具强♥奸♥
This is a woman who is being almost raped with a chainsaw with an implement.
她设法把握住了这一瞬间 并尽可能地把它变成她的优势
She manages to take that moment in hand and turn it as much to her advantage as she can
拯救她自己的生命
saving her own life.
如果她在那一刻被杀了 那么电影就结束了
If she’s killed in that moment the movie is over.
她是怎么做的
What does she do
她要去追他
She’s is going to go after him.
这在某种程度上开启了电影剩下的动作戏和疯狂的反转
It sort of launches the rest of the action for the rest of the film and that crazy inverted
血腥疯狂的萍踪之旅
bloody, nutty trip through Oz.
这是我最骄傲的时刻之一
It’s one of the moments I’m proudest of.
在我们拍摄这部电影的时候 我所能想到的就是不要让我妈妈看这部电影
At the time we shot it all I could think is I don’t want my mother to see this movie.
《活魔人》（1986） – 预告片
在《活魔人》中 斯图尔特想要证明这将是一部更严肃的电影
In From Beyond, Stuart wanted to prove that it was going to be a more serious movie.
杰弗瑞·考姆斯
《活魔人》演员
《活魔人》（1986）
《活跳尸》的幽默元素可能让他有点吃惊 所以他想要
The humor element of Re-Animator perhaps took him a little bit by surprise so he wanted
确保下一部电影的基调不会复♥制♥这一点
to make sure that the tone of the next movie didn’t replicate that.
我记得很多人都说这部电影是严肃的
I remember getting that note a lot that this is serious business this movie.
芭芭拉·克兰普顿
《活魔人》演员
《活魔人》（1986）
这是一个非常电影化的想法
It’s a very cinematic idea.
你不能相信你的五感
The idea that you can’t trust your five senses.
斯图尔特·戈登
《活魔人》编剧、导演
我们的感官是如此有限 我们甚至不知道所有这些东西
That our senses are so limited, we’re not even aware of all this stuff.
这些其他的维度和事物一直在我们身边
There’s these other dimensions and things that are around us all the time.
这是一个非常棒的概念
It’s a really great concept.
洛夫克拉夫特 他是个忧郁症患者 他认为空气中这些
Lovecraft, he was a hypochondriac and the idea of these invisible things that are in the
看不见的东西会杀死你
air that can kill you.
在《活魔人》中 芭芭拉扮演了一个疯狂的科学家
In From Beyond, Barbara plays the mad scientist essentially.
杰弗里·库姆斯是受害者 从某种程度上来说《活魔人》颠覆了他们
And Jeffrey Combs is the victim in a way From Beyond reversed the roles that they played
在《活跳尸》中扮演的角色
in Re-Animator.
由于Resonator 我能在一部电影的空间中做很多表征
I was able to do a lot in that characterization in the space of one movie because of the Resonator
因为我能够接触到自己深深的敦促和压抑的感情
I was able to get in touch with my deep urgings and repressed feelings.
当然还有更多施虐受虐的变♥态♥ 整部电影都是关于
There’s certainly more sadomasochistic kinky kind of – that the whole movie is about stimulating
刺♥激♥人们的性♥欲♥
the people’s sexuality.
所有被压抑的情绪都咆哮而出
All of that pent-up comes roaring out.
芭芭拉·克兰普顿和我都曾经说过 我不理解这个少即是多这句话
Barbara Crampton used to say and I used to say I don’t understand the expression
我认为多就该是多 她说不 如果斯图尔特和你在一起的话
less is more and I used to say, I think it should be more is more and she said no, Stuart with you
多就变成不够了
it’s more is not enough.
看看杰弗瑞·库姆斯从普雷托瑞斯的臃肿身材中出来
Look at Jeffrey Combs coming out of Pretorius’s blobby figure and trying to save Katherine
试图拯救凯瑟琳·麦克迈克尔 然后却被怪物吸收了 全身都是黏糊糊的粘液
McMichaels and then being absorbed by the monster and it was all this gooey slime.
我全身都是 杰弗里全身都是 泰德·索雷尔也全身都是 就像怪物一样
I had it all over me, Jeffrey had it all over him,Ted Sorel as the monster had it on him
就是这么一团恶心的东西
and it was just this grotesque disgusting mass.
有一段时间 怪物就像在我的头上 试图把我给吸走
And at one point the monster was like over my head and trying to absorb me and suck me
我得说 这真是太脏了
inside and it was a dirty business I got to say.
我每天都要化那样的妆 从没觉得自己会像卡西莫多一样丑
I never felt so ugly or hideous like Quasimodo in this makeup and you’re in it all day.
克劳福德的额头上长出了松果体
Crawford has the pineal gland sticking out of his forehead.
斯图尔特曾经说过 这是红色芦笋矛
Stuart used to say, well it’s a red asparagus spear.
不 是狗鸡♥巴♥ 那就是狗鸡♥巴♥
No, it’s a dog dick, that’s what it is. It’s a dog dick.
看不到的也能吓到你
音乐和声音设计
每部电影都有自己的特色
Each movie carries its own signature.
卡罗琳·威廉姆斯
《德州电锯杀人狂2》演员
正是这些声音开始侵入寂静和黑暗 创造了
It’s the sounds that begin to intrude on the silence and on the darkness that create the
恐怖电影中最大的恐怖元素
biggest element of fear in a horror film.
它建立了对某事即将发生的期待感
It builds the sense of anticipation that something is about to happen.
声音设计确实给了电影那种毛骨悚然的感觉
Sound design is really what gives the movie that kind of creepy feel.
斯宾塞·希克曼
死亡华尔兹奖创始人
例如 《猛鬼街》中弗雷迪沿着小巷走的那个画面
For instance, just that image of Freddy in A Nightmare on Elm Street 1 walking down the alley.
刀子贴在墙上 就像要刺穿你一样
The knives against the wall and it just like goes through you.
《猛鬼街》（1984）
这就是电影给人留下深刻而持久的记忆的原因
That’s what creates really memorable lasting memories of movies.
不仅仅是画面
It’s not just the image.
就像乐队里的贝斯手 如果他做对了 你永远不会注意到他 但如果他做错了
It’s like a bass player in a band if he does it right you never notice him but if he does it
凯蒂·菲德斯通
《灵动：鬼影实录》演员
你就会一直生他们的气
wrong, you’re like mad at them the whole time.
所以 我认为声音设计也是如此
So, I think the sound design is the same way.
它支撑着这个故事 所以你会陷在故事中 也许你没有真正注意到
It’s supporting this story and so you get lost in the story maybe you don’t really notice
声音设计
the sound design.
《13号♥星期五》（1980）
我们在《13号♥星期五》谈到了视点摄像机
We talk about the point of view camera in Friday the 13th.
肖恩·S·坎宁安
《13号♥星期五》导演
使它真正起作用的关键是 有一种声音符合
One of the things that makes that really work is that there was a sound that went with that
这个视点
point of view.
每次你在杰森身边时 那种声音就会出现在音乐的结构中
Every time you were around Jason that sound would be there it’d be in the fabric of the music.
《13号♥星期五2》（1981）
如果你用默片的形式看《13号♥星期五》或别的恐怖片 就不会那么可怕
If you watch Friday the 13th or any movie without sound, it wouldn’t be that scary
罗比·摩根
《13号♥星期五》演员
但是 当你把音乐放进去 一切都变了
but oh boy you put that music in, it’s everything.
《13号♥星期五》的第一次放映 似乎非常接近最终的剪辑
Our first screening of Friday the 13th which was pretty much close to the final cut seemed
没完没了 冗长乏味 好像什么都没发生
endless and so long and tedious because nothing happens
剪辑到一个月后 我们把声音放进去 我们把整个东西混在一起后
Cut to a month later and we had laid in the sound, we’d mix the whole thing and it became
同样的镜头却变得令人兴奋
exciting… same footage.
不知怎么的 你的情绪被卷入其中 因为音乐直接进入了你的心灵
But somehow or other your emotions get involved because the music goes straight to your heart,
直击你的灵魂 它只是告诉你 你应该有什么样的感觉
straight to your guts and it just, it tells you how you’re supposed to feel and where
你要去哪里 你是否可以放松或害怕等等
you’re going and whether you can relax, or be afraid or whatever.
这是得高分的关键因素
That’s the vital, vital element of a very good score.
令人毛骨悚然的场景加上非常酷的音乐才会更好 哈里·曼弗雷迪尼是一个天才
A creepy scene can be so much better with very cool music and Harry Manfredini is a genius.
哈里·曼弗雷迪尼
《13号♥星期五》系列作曲家
音乐传达了戏剧性
The music delivers the drama.
每部电影都有紧张 追逐和杀戮
Every film has tension, chase, kill.
作为一名电影作曲家 你的工作就是传达故事
Your job as a film composer in general you have to deliver the story.
《13号♥星期五2》（1981）
不管是惊吓还是大笑 杀人还是有人哭
Whether it’s a scare or a laugh, a kill or someone crying.
你觉得是它突然出现在你面前更恐怖 还是通过我的引导
Is it a better scare if it just jumps out at you or is it a better scare if I’m really
会更恐怖
leading to it
这些都是你要处理的机械系统的东西
Those are actual mechanical compositional things that you deal with.
如果观众对恐怖的预感已经到了7分的程度
If you’ve already got the audience at a seven like they’re really agitated and they’re really
那么恐怖场景出现时 冲击力只有3 因为满分就是10
nervous, the biggest hit you’re going to get is a three because you can only go to ten.
但如果你把音乐拉出来 让观众冷静下来 然后你再开始吓人
But if you pull the music out and you let the audience calm down then you hit,
那你就有机会跳到里氏7级 你知道吗
then you’ve got a chance of getting a seven on the Richter scale of jump, ya know
我觉得哈利在《13号♥星期五3》里的成绩还不够高
I think Harry doesn’t get enough credit for his discofied Friday the 13th Part 3 score.
迈克尔·金戈尔德
《AD Nauseum & Fangoria》作者
我永远记得《月光光心慌慌》里约翰·卡朋特的开场主题曲
Well, the piece of horror music I’ll always remember was John Carpenter’s opening theme
都是恐怖音乐 因为我记得我坐在剧院里 灯光熄灭 然后
from Halloween because I remember sitting in that theater and the lights go down and
音乐响起 南瓜在旁边 吓到我了
that music comes on with that pumpkin on the side and that scared me.
只是音乐就让我害怕
Just the music got me frightened.
《月光光心慌慌》（1978）
那是我第一次接触到那种让我心惊肉跳的音乐
That was my first encounter with music that really set a mood and got me creeped out before
电影甚至开始了