and he was getting more and more agitated as we drove
因为我还一直在礼貌拒绝他的提议
because I was still just politely declining his offer.
然后他说：“我想要你和我在按♥摩♥浴缸里裸体共浴”
And he said, “I want you to take a nude jacuzzi with me.
“你能不能现在就来和我共浴?”
Can you just come right now and take this?”
简直荒谬极了
This is ridiculous.
我开始离开车内
I started to get out of the car
他伸手越过我
and he reached across me
挡住我那侧的…
and palmed the window
车窗 然后用手臂困住我
on my side and put it, and blocked me with his arm.
他说：“听着 我可以帮你 也可以整死你！”
And he said, “look, I can help you or I can fuck you up!”
通过Me Too运动 我们了解到 94%的…
Through the Me Too movement, we know that 94%
想想看 好莱坞94%的女性
think about it, 94% of women in Hollywood,
不管是演员还是幕后人员
whether they’re actresses or behind the camera
都遭遇过性骚扰或性侵害
experienced sexual harassment or assault.
因为人们认为娱乐行业…
Because people think the entertainment industry
是有魔力的
is magical,
他们不会记得这些其实出自各位工作者们
they don’t remember that these are workers,
不会记得屏幕上的这些是真正的人
that these are actual human beings who are on your screen.
这种认为演员的身体——无论是作为角色
The thought pattern or the assumption
还是在角色之外 都是予取予求的…
that the actor’s body is fair play,
思维模式或假设…
both within the role and outside of the role,
都已是这个行业…
has been part of, you know,
观念模式的一部分了
sort of the industry’s mindset.
如果某位演员以任何…
It absolutely was that if an actor said no,
形式说了不
in any way shape or form,
他们一定会被视为麻烦制♥造♥者
they were absolutely considered a troublemaker, certainly,
而他们一定会害怕失去自己的工作
and they would absolutely be in fear of their job.
他们是用完即弃的
They were disposable.
《死亡沙漠》选角经纪人：劳拉 你在听吗？
(female voice on message) Yeah, Lara are you there?
我只是坐在这 想听到你的消息
I’m just sitting here, hoping to hear from you.
我才不管是不是凌晨三点
I don’t care if it’s three o’clock in the morning.
我想象不到有什么能重要到…
I can’t imagine what would be so important
让你对自己做出那种事
to cause you to do that to yourself.
请严肃想一想 今晚打给我
Please think very seriously and call me tonight
因为我想我们可以解决这事
because I think we can fix this.
如果我们可以及时找你回来干活
If we can get you back to work in time
这就不会毁了你的人生了
to not have it destroy your life.
那就是1989年我回家后收到的信息
So that is the message I came home to back in 1989
此前我拒绝出演一段没在剧本里的性♥爱♥戏
after refusing to do a sex scene that was not in my script.
那基本从实际上终结了我的表演生涯
And it basically, effectively, ended my acting career.
完全就像她说的一样
Exactly what she said.
我想总有一种权力关系
I think there’s always gonna be a power dynamic
无意识地存在于片场的人们之间
with people on set unconsciously,
无论理智看来他们是否想用言语将其表达出来
whether they wanna verbalize it or not, intellectually
我能感受到它 也确实感受过它
and I feel it and I’ve experienced it.
我曾身处一些情景
I’ve been in a couple of situations
当时我想即兴发挥
where I’m like trying to improvise
而某人 比如导演 插话说：
and someone, the director, chimes in and says,
“OK 现在跪下”
“Okay, now get down on your knees
“给这个男人口♥交♥”
and give this man a blowjob. ”
这是完全非知情同意的
Which is like non-consensual,
他们事先没和我的代表说
they didn’t talk to my representatives,
也没和我说 于是我就像突然被车头灯照到的鹿
they didn’t talk to me and so I’m like a deer in the headlights,
压力很大
that’s like pressure,
工作人员都看着
that’s like, the crew is watching,
你要怎么回应？
what are you gonna say?
难道哭着说：“请不要让我演这个”吗？
Cry and go like, “Please don’t make me do this?”
这个问题不仅限于好莱坞
[Nina] This problem is not limited to Hollywood.
蕾雅·赛杜 《阿黛尔的生活》的主演
Léa Seydoux, star of “Blue is the Warmest Color”
说长时间赤身裸体拍摄性♥爱♥戏
said that the excessive hours spent naked filming sex scenes
非常羞辱人 让她觉得自己像个妓♥女♥
was humiliating and left her feeling like a prostitute.
那部影片得了戛纳最高奖
The film won the top prize at Cannes.
也许那就是为什么在他后面的电影
Maybe that’s why in his next films,
《宿命 吾爱》系列
the “Mektoub My Love” series,
——该系列在极有声望的
which premiered at the prestigious
威尼斯国际电影节首映——
Venice International Film Festival,
导演柯西胥觉得自己有权力在片场
director Kechiche felt empowered to use
采用更加强迫式的方法
even more coercive methods on set.
据说包括让演员大量饮酒
Reportedly including the very heavy use of alcohol
来得到他的真实性♥爱♥戏
in order to obtain his unsimulated sex scenes.
之后导演的声明
And then the statements from directors
则说：“噢 我是想要从某人身上得到…”
saying “Oh, I wanted to get an authentic reaction
“真实的反应”
from somebody. ”
那可不是纯粹虚构的领域了
Well, that’s not the realm of make believe,
那可不是戏剧表演
that isn’t the realm of drama.
那是为了艺术 或者以艺术的名义
That’s the realm of actually choosing to assault somebody
真的侵害别人
for the sake of art, or in the name of art.
强♥奸♥文化是怎么被常规化的呢？
How is rape culture normalized?
没事 别在意我 继续啊
Its ok don’t mind me, keep on going
其实有三大关键元素
There are really three key elements
我们在银幕上和现实中都会看到
that we see on the screen and in real life.
其一是对女性躯体的客体化
One is the objectification of women’s bodies,
另一个是性侵害的美化
another is the glamorization of sexual assault,
——尤其是在银幕上
especially on the screen.
第三样则是对女性权利和安全的忽视
And the third is disregard for women’s rights and safety.
即使没有人直接受到威胁
Even if a hand is not laid on another person,
这些都是创造了这么一个允许一群人…
these are all of the elements that create an environment
获得并保持凌驾于另一群人之上的…
that allows one group to gain and maintain power
环境的元素
over another.
回顾我和哈维·韦恩斯坦在…
I look back at my encounter with Harvey Weinstein
比弗利山酒店的接触
at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
他穿着白色浴袍
He was in his white bath robe
想让我…
and he wanted me to…
他的阴♥茎♥从袍子里露出来
His penis was coming out of his robe
他想要一次按♥摩♥
and he wanted a massage.
我说：不 但我会给你找个女按♥摩♥师
I was like no, but I’ll get you a masseuse
我心跳得很快 “我该怎么离开这里？”
and heart racing, how do I get out of here?
他说我在犯大错
And he says I’m making a very big mistake,
“你在犯大错”
“you’re making a very big mistake”
我说：“我绝不做那女孩”
And I said “I’ll never be that girl”
“Me Too”运动大声疾呼
[Nina] The Me Too movement spoke out loud about
喊出了我们中许多人的私下遭遇
what so many of us had experienced privately.
在我自己的虚构电影中 我常以电影的方式试图表达
In my own fiction films I often tried to express cinematically
作为被性化的客体的真实感受
how it really feels to be a sexualized object.
《马格达勒纳维拉加》是我的第一部长片电影
“Magdalena Viraga” was my first feature film,
是我在UCLA电影学院时拍的
which I made at the UCLA Film School.
我自己的姐妹 同时也是女演员和我的…
It stars my own sister, actress,
长♥期♥合作者汀卡·门克斯主演了这部影片
and long time collaborator, Tinka Menkes.
它是我们合作拍摄的五部电影之一
This is one of 5 films we made together.
片中她扮演了一位深度疏离的妓♥女♥
Here, she’s playing a highly alienated prostitute.
问题在于 我们谈论的这些
The issues is that we are talking about,
不仅仅是我们在电影中所见的…
they are not just, you know, the images that we see
图像
in films,
不仅仅是谁在摄影机之后
you know, they are not just who’s behind the camera.
问题也存在于更大的语境中
The issue is also in this larger context
即由谁来决定什么能被看到
of who decides what gets seen.
对于什么能得到发行 作出决定的…
You know, we have mostly men making decisions
大多是男人
around what gets distributed.
也就是说 什么作品能够面世是从男性凝视的角度挑选的
It’s what gets out into the world is curated by a male gaze.
你好啊 帅哥
Hello handsome.
即使是在这个对未来的科幻构想里
Even in this sci-fi vision of the future,
我们看到的 还是老一套男性主体和被性化的…
we get the same old male subject, sexualized female object
女性客体
once again.
你瞧着很寂寞
You look lonely
我可以让你不寂寞
I can fix that
这种电影视觉语言
[Nina] This cinematic visual language
从四面八方包围着我们
which surrounds us on all sides
使人感到它们构成了强♥奸♥文化的基石语言
can really feel like the bedrock language of rape culture.
实际上 本片中安娜·德·阿玛斯饰演的女主角
In fact, the name of the female lead character in this film,
名字叫乔伊（愉悦）
played by Ana de Armas, is Joy.
但他们把这个名字微妙地拼成J-O-I
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