[Nina] In “Juniper Tree” Nietzchka Keene focuses on
她人物的内心生活
the inner life of her characters.
人们时常感到:“我该从…”
People often feel, you know, I should be freed
“所有无意识吸收进我大脑的东西中…”
from all those things that are unconsciously soaked
“挣脱出来”
into our own mind.
那些情绪总在某些隐匿的地方累积
Those emotions are always accumulated somewhere hidden,
而那种地方就是愤怒 或者…
so that’s the part which is anger or, you know,
悲伤 或者不满
the sadness or dissatisfaction,
我把所有这些情绪想象成烹饪
all these emotions are, I imagine, like cooking,
这些情绪都是你的这餐饭的原材料
these things are ingredients of your meal.
你切菜 然后烹饪
So you chop, you know, you cook,
你做所有这些操作
you do all these things,
但最终 你还是想做些好菜
but, by the end, you’d like to get some nice dish.
所以这是对这些原材料的一种转化
So it’s a transformation of this raw material.
包含了大量创造能量
Which has lots of creative energy in there.
呃!
Ugh!
关于女性之怒的电影由很多代女性…
Films about female rage have been made by women
不断制♥作♥出来
for many, many generations.
它已形成了一种历史 一种传承
So there’s a history, there’s a legacy,
但在如今的社会 政♥治♥氛围中 有了一种…
but today there’s something very different in the climate
截然不同的…
social, political climate
与主流媒体相联结的东西
that is connected to mainstream media.
因此 眼下对那些有兴趣呈现这些问题的…
And so, it’s a really unique moment for filmmakers
电影人 女性电影人来说 是一个…
for women filmmakers who are interested
非常独特的时刻
in taking on these issues.
你在做什么? -没事的
What are you doing? It’s okay.
你在做什么?
What are you doing?
你在做什么?
What are you doing?
嘿!
Hey!
嘿 我说了 你在做什么?
Hey, I said what are you doing?
当事情涉及到钱 涉及到机会
When it comes to money and when it comes to opportunity,
只有强行要求改变才会带来改变
things don’t change unless you force change.
我之前将这个问题提交到了美国公民自♥由♥联盟
My having been able to take this issue to the ACLU,
他们在2014年启动了一场为女性导演发声的运动
who began their campaign for women directors in 2014,
还有EEOC 即均等就业机会委员会
and the EEOC, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission,
他们在2015年开展了调查
that began their investigation in 2015,
以违反民权法案第七章为由打击了制片厂的…
attacking the pocketbooks of the studios for violation
经济利益 维护了这一♥平♥等就业机会法
of Title 7, which is equal employment opportunity law.
所以眼下在2021年 我们开始看到
So right now, in 2021 we are beginning to see
这次行动的结果
the results of this action.
这是真正变革的历史性标志:
[Nina] In a historic sign of real change,
赵婷 一位亚裔女性 赢得了奥斯卡…
Chloe Zhao, a woman of color, won the Academy Award
最佳电影和最佳导演奖
for Best Picture and Best Director.
嘿 找到什么有趣的东西了吗?
Hey, find anything interesting?
石头!
Rocks!
她的电影主要从一位六十几岁的女性视角出发
Her film features the perspective of a woman in her 60’s.
当与主客体无关时…
What does desire look like
欲望看起来是什么样
when it’s not about subject and object
我想我们正处在探索的过程中
I think we’re in a process of discovery, you know.
而我们每个人显然都在自己人生的…
Each of us obviously is in a process of discovery
自我探索过程中
for ourselves in our own lives.
此刻作为一名电影人 一名非二元性别电影人
So now as a filmmaker, as a non-binary filmmaker,
我自问:摄影机往何处去?
I’m asking myself, where does the camera go?
你会问这些问题:
These questions that you’re asking,
摄影机往何处去?
So where does the camera go?
我观看的是谁?
And who am I looking at?
我展示出被观看的感受了吗?
Am I showing how does it feel to be looked at?
以及我展示出我被观看时的…
And am I showing how it feels to see
观看者的感受了吗?
while I’m being looked at?
女主角的历程是什么样的?
What is the heroine’s journey?
《燃烧女子的肖像》就涉及了这个…
[Nina] “Portrait of a Lady on Fire” is concerned with the issue
两个女人间的主客体问题
of subject and object in the case of two women
她们似乎平等地对对方怀有欲望
who seem to desire each other equally.
这里我们遇到的问题是 什么是主体?
Here we get the question of, what is a subject,
什么是客体?
what is an object?
而客体是如何找到一种方式来变成…
And how does the object find a way of becoming,
发现其自身的主体性
discovering their own subjectivity,
拥有其自身主体性并变成主体的
having their own subjectivity and becoming a subject,
这改变了权力关系
which changes the power dynamic.
在我自己与汀卡合作的电影中
(Nina) In my own films, working with Tinka,
她经常打破第四面墙
she often broke through the 4th wall
并对抗摄影机
and confronted the camera,
要求夺回她对世界和她自己的…
claiming her own subjective perception
主体性感知觉
of both herself and the world.
想搭车吗?
Would you like a ride?
无论你是一位异性恋男性
[Nina] Whether you’re a heterosexual man
一位女性 任何其间的性别
or you’re a woman or you’re anything in between
或两边兼而有之 等等等等
or on the sides or whatever,
想一想:我实际上如何感受欲望?
you know, how do I actually experience desire?
我实际上如何感受我的日常?
How do I actually experience my day?
因为我们被灌输了以下概念:什么是时间?
You know, because we’ve been taught, what is time?
什么是性?
What is sex?
什么是男人?什么是女人?
What is man? What is a woman?
我们是被灌输了这些概念
We’ve been taught all these things
而如果我们直接接受这些…
and if we just accept it,
就会被困在集体意识中
we’re trapped in the collective consciousness
而集体意识一般都是比较低级的
which tends to be on a kind of low level.
如果尝试向内聆听…
What happens if you try to listen inward,
如果你试着以一种非常非常非常精妙…
if you try to tune in on a very, very, very delicate
且安静的方式向内感受自己实际的体验…
and quiet way to what you’re actually experiencing
并思考对那种体验的真正表达若转化为一个镜头…
and what would be actually the true expression
会是什么样 那又会如何呢
of that experience as translated into a shot.
电影的视觉语言
就业歧视
性骚扰/性侵害

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